Comments on: Of scepticism, jet-packs and living to a thousand http://www.davecole.org/blog/2009/08/17/of-scepticism-jet-packs-and-living-to-a-thousand/ Just another WordPress site Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:31:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Carmen Gets Around » Blog Archive » Forever Young? http://www.davecole.org/blog/2009/08/17/of-scepticism-jet-packs-and-living-to-a-thousand/#comment-29648 Carmen Gets Around » Blog Archive » Forever Young? Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:31:23 +0000 http://davecole.org/blog/?p=1640#comment-29648 [...] bus back home at 1am) so this blog might be a short one today. Please check out this informative blog by Dave Cole (who was utterly charming yesterday) and this nice little debate on why the speaker is probably [...] [...] bus back home at 1am) so this blog might be a short one today. Please check out this informative blog by Dave Cole (who was utterly charming yesterday) and this nice little debate on why the speaker is probably [...]

]]> By: Dave Cole http://www.davecole.org/blog/2009/08/17/of-scepticism-jet-packs-and-living-to-a-thousand/#comment-1365 Dave Cole Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:03:33 +0000 http://davecole.org/blog/?p=1640#comment-1365 James, All I can say is... you might well think that. I couldn't possibly comment. More seriously, he seemed to put forward a plausible hypothesis, but there was never going to be time for him to fully develop it in forty-five minutes in a pub basement. However, the one or two bits I think I fully understood made me a little bit uncertain about some of his arguments, specifically whether jetpacks or cars are the better comparison for his treatments, and the somewhat utopian vision he set out, almost in passing, of the world. The couple of bona fide scientists in my immediate vicinity had real problems with some of what was being set out by de Gray. All that having been said, he was a fun person to hear. .-= Dave Cole´s last blog: <a href="http://davecole.org/blog/2009/08/17/of-scepticism-jet-packs-and-living-to-a-thousand/" rel="nofollow">Of scepticism, jet-packs and living to a thousand</a> =-. James,

All I can say is… you might well think that. I couldn’t possibly comment.

More seriously, he seemed to put forward a plausible hypothesis, but there was never going to be time for him to fully develop it in forty-five minutes in a pub basement. However, the one or two bits I think I fully understood made me a little bit uncertain about some of his arguments, specifically whether jetpacks or cars are the better comparison for his treatments, and the somewhat utopian vision he set out, almost in passing, of the world.

The couple of bona fide scientists in my immediate vicinity had real problems with some of what was being set out by de Gray.

All that having been said, he was a fun person to hear.
.-= Dave Cole´s last blog: Of scepticism, jet-packs and living to a thousand =-.

]]> By: Forever Young? « Carmen Gets Around (II) http://www.davecole.org/blog/2009/08/17/of-scepticism-jet-packs-and-living-to-a-thousand/#comment-1364 Forever Young? « Carmen Gets Around (II) Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:22:38 +0000 http://davecole.org/blog/?p=1640#comment-1364 [...] bus back home at 1am) so this blog might be a short one today. Please check out this informative blog by Dave Cole (who was utterly charming yesterday) and this nice little debate on why the speaker is probably [...] [...] bus back home at 1am) so this blog might be a short one today. Please check out this informative blog by Dave Cole (who was utterly charming yesterday) and this nice little debate on why the speaker is probably [...]

]]> By: jameshigham http://www.davecole.org/blog/2009/08/17/of-scepticism-jet-packs-and-living-to-a-thousand/#comment-1363 jameshigham Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:56:37 +0000 http://davecole.org/blog/?p=1640#comment-1363 Firstly, the scientific. I can’t assess his science, but a number of people there raised fairly substantial problems with his paradigm and with the conclusions he drew from it. That is probably one for the peer reviewed papers. Do you mean, Dave, that he's talking through his backside? .-= jameshigham´s last blog: <a href="http://nourishingobscurity.blogspot.com/2009/08/picnic-in-forest-if-you-go-down-to.html" rel="nofollow">[picnic in the forest] if you go down to the woods ...</a> =-. Firstly, the scientific. I can’t assess his science, but a number of people there raised fairly substantial problems with his paradigm and with the conclusions he drew from it. That is probably one for the peer reviewed papers.

Do you mean, Dave, that he’s talking through his backside?
.-= jameshigham´s last blog: [picnic in the forest] if you go down to the woods … =-.

]]> By: Dave http://www.davecole.org/blog/2009/08/17/of-scepticism-jet-packs-and-living-to-a-thousand/#comment-1362 Dave Tue, 18 Aug 2009 07:48:13 +0000 http://davecole.org/blog/?p=1640#comment-1362 I haven't, Tracy, but I'm going to pick up a copy. It sounds fascinating. I was thinking a bit last night about Olaf Stapledon's <em>Last and First Men</em> which deals with the future evolution of h. sapiens. Again, it is not so unreservedly positive about the effects of very long life. xD. I haven’t, Tracy, but I’m going to pick up a copy. It sounds fascinating. I was thinking a bit last night about Olaf Stapledon’s Last and First Men which deals with the future evolution of h. sapiens. Again, it is not so unreservedly positive about the effects of very long life.

xD.

]]> By: Tracy King http://www.davecole.org/blog/2009/08/17/of-scepticism-jet-packs-and-living-to-a-thousand/#comment-1361 Tracy King Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:20:11 +0000 http://davecole.org/blog/?p=1640#comment-1361 Have you read John Wyndham's The Trouble With Lichen? It raises some of the same social questions that De Gray's pet project does, although in part due to the limited availability of the resource (a lichen) which lengthens lifespan. But it's worth a read. A corking bit of sci fi, to which I'm tempted to add "a bit like Aubrey De Grey's work" but that would be uncharitable. Have you read John Wyndham’s The Trouble With Lichen? It raises some of the same social questions that De Gray’s pet project does, although in part due to the limited availability of the resource (a lichen) which lengthens lifespan. But it’s worth a read. A corking bit of sci fi, to which I’m tempted to add “a bit like Aubrey De Grey’s work” but that would be uncharitable.

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