Comments on: Dolly-Dolly-Dolly Out-Out-Out? http://www.davecole.org/blog/2009/04/18/dolly-dolly-dolly-out-out-out/ Just another WordPress site Thu, 23 Jun 2011 13:31:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Chris Paul http://www.davecole.org/blog/2009/04/18/dolly-dolly-dolly-out-out-out/#comment-1221 Chris Paul Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:20:09 +0000 http://davecole.org/blog/?p=1286#comment-1221 Clearly I agree with this Dave, except that I don't think there's anything intrinsically wrong with irreverent, hard-hitting, satirical, attacky blogs. "Red Rag" could have been that without being a smear factory. Indeed if we believe McBride and Draper - and why wouldn't we?(!) they're on our side after all! (?) - the horrid nasties had been shelved, even if the site had not. If Labour List was supposed to be The New Statesman end of things, can we not accept that something at the Private Eye end would also be legitimate? The biggest problem with both concepts of Labour Blogging is this tension between authenticity and interest and being controlled from the centre. A Private Eye spectrum blog could not possibly be controlled from the centre, even if it were pretty squeaky clean. That's the mistake they were making in these meetings - discussing a controlled satirical or irreverent blog. If they'd just been thinking of ways of getting better value out of the amateurs out here. Trying to be amusing while gently discrediting the opposition - Sadie, Kerron, LOL, Recess Monkey, Parburypolitica, Rupa (sometimes), the Boris blogs, Piper etc. I am bemused by the Unite claim not to be the LL backers. I thought that had been established. Though I don't see how it helps them to deny it if they were. Labour List - barring the Editor's spats - seems reasonably legitimate. Clearly I agree with this Dave, except that I don’t think there’s anything intrinsically wrong with irreverent, hard-hitting, satirical, attacky blogs. “Red Rag” could have been that without being a smear factory. Indeed if we believe McBride and Draper – and why wouldn’t we?(!) they’re on our side after all! (?) – the horrid nasties had been shelved, even if the site had not.

If Labour List was supposed to be The New Statesman end of things, can we not accept that something at the Private Eye end would also be legitimate? The biggest problem with both concepts of Labour Blogging is this tension between authenticity and interest and being controlled from the centre.

A Private Eye spectrum blog could not possibly be controlled from the centre, even if it were pretty squeaky clean.

That’s the mistake they were making in these meetings – discussing a controlled satirical or irreverent blog. If they’d just been thinking of ways of getting better value out of the amateurs out here. Trying to be amusing while gently discrediting the opposition – Sadie, Kerron, LOL, Recess Monkey, Parburypolitica, Rupa (sometimes), the Boris blogs, Piper etc.

I am bemused by the Unite claim not to be the LL backers. I thought that had been established. Though I don’t see how it helps them to deny it if they were. Labour List – barring the Editor’s spats – seems reasonably legitimate.

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