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	<title>Comments on: Looking ahead to London 2012</title>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.davecole.org/blog/2008/08/25/looking-ahead-to-london-2012/#comment-999</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silver,

Fair enough if you didn&#039;t support the idea of the Olympics coming to London. Can I ask, though, if you think it would be appropriate for &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; city to host the Olympics? Would its citizens not have the same objections as you and a goodly amount of other Londoners? It does seem that your position rapidly ends the idea of the Olympics.

On the second point, do you really think that the current Government in Britain is even remotely like the CCP or are you saying that for effect? There is this tendency on the blogosphere to make &#039;jokes&#039; along the &#039;ZaNuLab&#039; line which demean those who are opposing genuinely unpleasant regimes and cheapen the level of our political discourse; they are a meaningless shorthand of abuse. Sorry if I sound snarky, but it annoys me.

While I concede that the Summer Olympics have gone to some unpleasant regimes (China, Nazi Germany, USSR) it&#039;s also gone to Greece (three times), France, the USA (four times), Sweden, Belgium, the Netherlands, Finland, Australia (twice), Italy, Japan, Mexico, West Germany, Canada and South Korea. It has been to London twice before now and in 2016 will go to Chicago, Madrid, Rio or Tokyo.

xD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silver,</p>
<p>Fair enough if you didn&#8217;t support the idea of the Olympics coming to London. Can I ask, though, if you think it would be appropriate for <i>any</i> city to host the Olympics? Would its citizens not have the same objections as you and a goodly amount of other Londoners? It does seem that your position rapidly ends the idea of the Olympics.</p>
<p>On the second point, do you really think that the current Government in Britain is even remotely like the CCP or are you saying that for effect? There is this tendency on the blogosphere to make &#8216;jokes&#8217; along the &#8216;ZaNuLab&#8217; line which demean those who are opposing genuinely unpleasant regimes and cheapen the level of our political discourse; they are a meaningless shorthand of abuse. Sorry if I sound snarky, but it annoys me.</p>
<p>While I concede that the Summer Olympics have gone to some unpleasant regimes (China, Nazi Germany, USSR) it&#8217;s also gone to Greece (three times), France, the USA (four times), Sweden, Belgium, the Netherlands, Finland, Australia (twice), Italy, Japan, Mexico, West Germany, Canada and South Korea. It has been to London twice before now and in 2016 will go to Chicago, Madrid, Rio or Tokyo.</p>
<p>xD.</p>
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		<title>By: SilverTiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>SilverTiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am one of those who opposed (and still oppose) London&#039;s hosting of the Games. We plan to be out of London for the duration. Unfortunately, we will not be able to avoid being mugged to pay the debts it incurs.

The Beijing Games should have convinced all but the hopelessly dogmatic that hosting the Games does nothing to open up a country and make it a better world citizen. In fact, it confers a kind of legitimacy on evil regimes.

London should fit into that pattern nicely, then, assuming that Labour is still in power by then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am one of those who opposed (and still oppose) London&#8217;s hosting of the Games. We plan to be out of London for the duration. Unfortunately, we will not be able to avoid being mugged to pay the debts it incurs.</p>
<p>The Beijing Games should have convinced all but the hopelessly dogmatic that hosting the Games does nothing to open up a country and make it a better world citizen. In fact, it confers a kind of legitimacy on evil regimes.</p>
<p>London should fit into that pattern nicely, then, assuming that Labour is still in power by then.</p>
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